Coronavirus: Pandemic, Hype, or "Much-to-do about nothing"?
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how many more "simple MISTAKES (??)" have been made on other Corona related matters by other companies and propaganda media??????
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here comes the man-made Corona second wave ... the misanthropist and virus infections expert:
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Hmn ... in the meantime we have August 2020, folks ... and still no "real" pandemic (remember, WHO changed its definitions for "pandemic" after the 009 flop with their fake panic propaganda about chinese influenza or whatever it was called) ...
Here's the latest report from Swiss Policy Research on Covid-19 facts and data:
There are also very informative statistics for various important aspects related to Covid-19 and what's been going on in the USA!
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an excerpt from the text:
** Dr. Tony Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx used the Imperial College Model to persuade President Trump to lock down the ENTIRE US ECONOMY.
** The fraudulent model predicted 2.2 million American deaths from the coronavirus pandemic
** The authors of the Imperial College Model shared their findings with the White House Coronavirus task force in early March
** Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx then met with President Trump privately and urged him to shut down the US economy and destroy the record Trump economy based on this model
But the Imperial College model Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx pushed was garbage and they recommended the destruction of the US economy using this completely flawed model.
Today we now have empirical evidence that the WHO, Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx were all wrong. They were charlatans. They lied.
The CDC silently updated their numbers this week to show that only 6% of all coronavirus deaths were completely due to the coronavirus alone. The rest of the deaths pinned to the China coronavirus are attributed to individuals who had other serious issues going on.
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I suggests you have a look at this short info from Tucker Carlson on the current Covid-19 situation and the WHO organization's chief proclamations about it ....
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the folks behind the corona pandemic are the same globalist fascists as those behind the election "blues"
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So that folks here don't have a wrong impression .... this is not just a conspiracy theorist's idea ....❣️
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A small side comment ...
@Bill_Coley mentioned in a different thread
the Biden-Harris campaign committed itself to following public health expert guidelines in its campaign events, guidelines which called for small, socially distanced, masked, and outside gatherings, if people were to gather at all, and remote events if possible. The Trump-Pence campaign eschewed those guidelines, and welcomed thousands of unmasked people to stand shoulder-to-shoulder at its rallies.
And what actually did those two approaches prove regarding the "public health expert guidelines"??? IF such guidelines were anything but a public stupidity show, one would have had hundreds or thousands of Covid-19 sick people and many "corona dead" folks after Trump campaigns ... but is that what happened? NO!!!
Folks, those campaign meetings with unmasked and close together crowds PROVED and provided first hand evidence that the Corona restrictions aree utter non-sense and nothing more than the measures taken by those instigating a coup.
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@Wolfgang posted:
And what actually did those two approaches prove regarding the "public health expert guidelines"??? IF such guidelines were anything but a public stupidity show, one would have had hundreds or thousands of Covid-19 sick people and many "corona dead" folks after Trump campaigns ... but is that what happened? NO!!!
For reasons which I hope you'll share, Wolfgang, here you've chosen to quote some, but not all, of one of the paragraphs in MY LATEST POST in another thread. The remainder of said paragraph reads as follows:
.... If Mr. Roberts needs assistance recalling the effects of the Trump-Pence campaign rally strategy, he can contact Herman Cain... who died from COVID after attending Mr. Trump's indoor rally in Tulsa, or any of the more 30,000 people whose COVID cases (including more than 700 deaths) Stanford University researchers have traced back to Trump rallies.
So 30,000 COVID cases and more than 700 deaths have been credibly linked to Trump-Pence campaign rallies. Granted, that's not "hundreds of thousands of Covid-19 sick people," but it sure seems like a lot of Covid-19 sick people, CERTAINLY MORE than the number of Covid-19 sick people that resulted from Biden-Harris campaign rallies, and more than would have contracted/died from the virus had those rallies not been held.
Do you claim that 30,000 Covid-19 sick people and 700 deaths were an acceptable price to pay so that the Trump-Pence campaign could hold the rallies of its choice, design, and size? If so, is there ANY number of Covid-19 sick people and deaths that you would have found to be unacceptably high? What moral and ethical responsibility to protect public health and to lead by example do you believe candidates for political office have in the midst of a global pandemic?
[AND I AWAIT YOUR RESPONSES TO THE OTHER COMPONENTS OF MY POST IN THAT OTHER THREAD, WOLFGANG - THE COMPONENTS THAT SYSTEMATICALLY DEMONSTRATED THE FALSE OR MISLEADING NATURE OF NEARLY EVERY CLAIM P.C. ROBERTS MADE IN THE SECTION OF HIS ESSAY THAT YOU CHOSE TO QUOTE.
IN YOUR POSTS ABOUT THE PANDEMIC AND THE 2020 AMERICAN ELECTION, YOU CONTINUE TO POST FALSEHOOD AFTER FALSEHOOD AFTER FALSEHOOD AFTER FALSEHOOD. WHAT YOU DON'T DO - WHAT YOU ALMOST NEVER DO - IS STAND ACCOUNTABLE FOR THOSE FALSEHOODS. THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO START DOING DO.]
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The idea that you can definitively say that someone got Covid from a Trump rally, or church for that matter, when the virus is so widespread is absolutely absurd.
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@Bill_Coley wrote
Do you claim that 30,000 Covid-19 sick people and 700 deaths were an acceptable price to pay so that the Trump-Pence campaign could hold the rallies of its choice, design, and size? If so, is there ANY number of Covid-19 sick people and deaths that you would have found to be unacceptably high? What moral and ethical responsibility to protect public health and to lead by example do you believe candidates for political office have in the midst of a global pandemic?
I consider it "loony tunes propaganda" by those "researchers" to come up with such numbers ... Since the supposed virus doesn't change its work from country to country, it is absolutely absurd to propagate what those Standford researchers claim. There have been very large demonstrations with tens of thousands of participants in Germany (Berlin, Stuttgart, Cologne, etc) this year where the same type of fear & panic propaganda was publicized ... and none of these BLM demos, or Anti-Corona politics demos showed any subsequent sudden increase in covid-19 cases or deaths that could be traced to those "no social distance" and "no masks" demos.
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@reformed posted:
The idea that you can definitively say that someone got Covid from a Trump rally, or church for that matter, when the virus is so widespread is absolutely absurd.
@Wolfgang posted:
I consider it "loony tunes propaganda" by those "researchers" to come up with such numbers ... Since the supposed virus doesn't change its work from country to country, it is absolutely absurd to propagate what those Standford researchers claim. There have been very large demonstrations with tens of thousands of participants in Germany (Berlin, Stuttgart, Cologne, etc) this year where the same type of fear & panic propaganda was publicized ... and none of these BLM demos, or Anti-Corona politics demos showed any subsequent sudden increase in covid-19 cases or deaths that could be traced to those "no social distance" and "no masks" demos.
Did either of you actually read the Stanford paper? If you didn't, on what basis do you make judgments about its methodology and conclusions?
As for the general premise that COVID infection rises can be tied to specific events, please address the following question directly: Three weeks after Mr. Trump's rally in Tulsa - the one Trump friend and ally Herman Cain attended, then subsequently contracted the virus and died - the state of Oklahoma experienced record COVID infection numbers, and Tulsa County - home to the city of Tulsa - experienced increased COVID numbers that Tulsa City-County Health Department Director Dr. Bruce Dart said "more than likely" were increased by the Trump rally. "In the past few days, we’ve seen almost 500 new cases, and we had several large events just over two weeks ago, so I guess we just connect the dots,” the article quotes Dart as saying. In your views, gentlemen, was it simply coincidence that Tulsa and its state just happened to experience significant rises in COVID cases three weeks after the Trump rally, when three weeks is generally considered to be the approximate amount of time between an event and its COVID consequences?
And the results of THIS CNN REVIEW OF COVID DATA from the counties in which Trump held campaign rallies - data which show that 14 of the 17 counties they examined experienced increased COVID rates a month after the Trump rally to which they were host - again, mere coincidences?
And the infamous Rose Garden ceremony at which then-Supreme Court nominee Amy Coney Barrett was introduced, the event after which 14 of the 300 maskless and not socially distanced guests, including President Trump, tested COVID positive, and to which a total of 34 cases were eventually linked - those results were again mere coincidences?
And as usual, both of you have evaded - refused even to mention - substantive questions I posed to you:
- Your reactions to the post in which I systematically demonstrated the false or misleading nature of nearly every claim P.C. Roberts made in the section of his essay from which @Wolfgang quoted and @reformed appeared to endorse?
- What moral and ethical responsibility to protect public health and to lead by example do you believe candidates for political office have in the midst of a global pandemic?
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@Bill_Coley wrote
As for the general premise that COVID infection rises can be tied to specific events, please address the following question directly: Three weeks after Mr. Trump's rally in Tulsa - the one Trump friend and ally Herman Cain attended, then subsequently contracted the virus and died - the state of Oklahoma experienced record COVID infection numbers, and Tulsa County - home to the city of Tulsa - experienced increased COVID numbers that Tulsa City-County Health Department Director Dr. Bruce Dart said "more than likely" were increased by the Trump rally. "In the past few days, we’ve seen almost 500 new cases, and we had several large events just over two weeks ago, so I guess we just connect the dots,” the article quotes Dart as saying. In your views, gentlemen, was it simply coincidence that Tulsa and its state just happened to experience significant rises in COVID cases three weeks after the Trump rally, when three weeks is generally considered to be the approximate amount of time between an event and its COVID consequences?
This already tells the story .... "more likely" ... ho ho ho 😉
In the meantime, over here in Germany it is widely known that officially declared "infections" were actually not infections at all but solely "positiv PCR test results." The politicians and many of the health institutions still stick with their idea of using those test numbers as infection numbers .... apparently for political panic propaganda purposes. seeing that the tests used were never designed to be used in diagnostics to show any infection, but only to be used in laboratory scenarios to detect presence of certain small parts of RNA, etc.
Also, as has been acknowledged in the meantime as well, many (some even estimate 90% ) of the deaths assigned to Covid-19 were not due to Covid-19 at all but to other causes and per-existing fatal conditions (heart problems, cancer, very old age, etc.), but were put into "Covid- deaths" statistics if a positive PCR test result was found when they were tested at hospitals, hospices, etc.
By the way, did you know that to this day this supposedly deadly virus has never been isolated or found in any of the cases ??? All ideas and claims are based on assumptions and computer models (see PCR test info) ... It is commonly said by virologists that a virus is not a living organism like bacteria are that multiply and then cause infections. How even can a dead / life-less "virus" multiply itself and cause infections?
It seems to me as if virology is "a phantom of the medicine" and virologists at large are charlatans draining the public of millions of $ & €.
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@Wolfgang posted:
This already tells the story .... "more likely" ... ho ho ho 😉
AGAIN I ask you, Wolfgang: In your view, was it simply coincidence that Tulsa and its state just happened to experience significant rises in COVID cases three weeks after the Trump rally, when three weeks is generally considered to be the approximate amount of time between an event and its COVID consequences?
In the meantime, over here in Germany it is widely known that officially declared "infections" were actually not infections at all but solely "positiv PCR test results." The politicians and many of the health institutions still stick with their idea of using those test numbers as infection numbers ....
A positive PCR test for COVID-19 means the virus has been found in the person's system. PCR tests are highly accurate, but false positive PCR tests are possible - very rare, but possible.
A significant percentage of COVID-positive people are asymptomatic, which means they have the virus, but exhibit no symptoms. Asymptomatic people don't suffer symptoms, but CAN spread the virus.
Also, as has been acknowledged in the meantime as well, many (some even estimate 90% ) of the deaths assigned to Covid-19 were not due to Covid-19 at all but to other causes and per-existing fatal conditions (heart problems, cancer, very old age, etc.), but were put into "Covid- deaths" statistics if a positive PCR test result was found when they were tested at hospitals, hospices, etc.
The issue of determining COVID's role in each victim's death is well known, but your claim that up to 90% of COVID-assigned deaths were "not due to COVID19 at all" is new to me, and in my view, does not seem true. Please provide links to the objective evidence on which you base this claim.
By the way, did you know that to this day this supposedly deadly virus has never been isolated or found in any of the cases ??? All ideas and claims are based on assumptions and computer models (see PCR test info) ... It is commonly said by virologists that a virus is not a living organism like bacteria are that multiply and then cause infections. How even can a dead / life-less "virus" multiply itself and cause infections?
A five minute Google search provided the answer to your question, Wolfgang. This Scientific American article, for example, makes clear what every site that addresses the question makes clear: that viruses are not alive, and therefore on their own, can't replicate. Viruses multiply by invading cells and hijacking their chemical and biological systems. As the article states,
"But when a virus enters a cell (called a host after infection), it is far from inactive. It sheds its coat, bares its genes and induces the cell’s own replication machinery to reproduce the intruder’s DNA or RNA and manufacture more viral protein based on the instructions in the viral nucleic acid. The newly created viral bits assemble and, voilà, more virus arises, which also may infect other cells."
and then...
"Viruses, however, parasitize essentially all biomolecular aspects of life. That is, they depend on the host cell for the raw materials and energy necessary for nucleic acid synthesis, protein synthesis, processing and transport, and all other biochemical activities that allow the virus to multiply and spread. One might then conclude that even though these processes come under viral direction, viruses are simply nonliving parasites of living metabolic systems."
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A five minute Google search provided the answer to your question, Wolfgang. This Scientific American article, for example, makes clear what every site that addresses the question makes clear: that viruses are not alive, and therefore on their own, can't replicate. Viruses multiply by invading cells and hijacking their chemical and biological systems. As the article states,
"But when a virus enters a cell (called a host after infection), it is far from inactive. It sheds its coat, bares its genes and induces the cell’s own replication machinery to reproduce the intruder’s DNA or RNA and manufacture more viral protein based on the instructions in the viral nucleic acid. The newly created viral bits assemble and, voilà, more virus arises, which also may infect other cells."
Since viruses are not alive, they can not invade any cells nor can they replicate by doing so .... plain logic will tell anyone awake to the matter.
The issue of determining COVID's role in each victim's death is well known, but your claim that up to 90% of COVID-assigned deaths were "not due to COVID19 at all" is new to me, and in my view, does not seem true. Please provide links to the objective evidence on which you base this claim.
CDC not along ago reported a rather dramatic decrease in numbers of how covid-dead had been counted, a major reason for the adjustment of the numbers being that anyone with a positive PCR test who died had been counted ... no matter why they actually died. Same type of counting also actually happened an still happens now over here ... obviously, there is a reason and purpose behind such blatant intended propaganda promotion of such error
A positive PCR test for COVID-19 means the virus has been found in the person's system.
Not accordig to official sources, such as the Pro Drosten in Berlin who developed the PCR tests which then rapidly was promoted and spread by the WHO to many other countries as well. The test reacts to a certain assumed small sequence of material, but does NOT AT ALL allow any further diagnosis as to what the found small sequence actually belongs and what it indicates. Since no one anywhere has found and isolated a SARS-Cov-2 virus, it is still impossible to even make a test which would indeed show the presence of such virus.
Illustration: We develop a "PCR chicken" test that recognizes and reacts to a small feather fragment. Now, I am walking along and find and pick up a small feather from the ground => oops, that PCR chicken test will show me to be chicken positive. Am I "infected" with an live, able to reproduce chicken? No! Actually there is nothing close to a chicken. A little later I come by a dead sparrow laying on the floor, pick it up and - of course - "PCR chicken" test again shows I am "chicken positive". But am I anything close to a chicken? No! ..... The pillow on my bed is just a terrible "chicken hot spot", because there were hundreds of PCR chicken tests made, and all (!!!) of them were positive !! ...Yes, the test did accurately react to "feather", but from such small fragment one can absolutely not determine anything really about having found a live and able to reproduce chicken etc.
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Here is an email from Robert F. Kennedy Jr. with information relating to the vaccination promotions after the Corona brainwashing campaign:
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In 2009 the US adopted the Global Health Security Agenda. The GHSA soon made biosecurity the spear tip of US foreign policy.The objective was to fortify US global hegemony by exploiting the unifying force of a global threat from pandemics. In other words ,microbes would replace monolithic communism as a threat to justify the construction of vast,intrusive security and surveillance apparatuses and global government. GHSA’s function was to sponsor a new global Cold War against viruses. In the words of the State Department, the GHSA serves to reorganize private corporations, including media and pharmaceutical companies and civil society globally to work together “to achieve focused goals and the following specific targets: Countering antimicrobial resistance; preventing the emergence and spread of zoonotic disease; advancing a whole-of-government national biosafety and biosecurity system in every country; improving immunization; establishing a national laboratory system; strengthening real-time biosurveillance; advancing timely and accurate disease reporting; establishing a trained global health security workforce; establishing emergency operations centers; linking public health, law and multi-sectoral rapid response; and enhancing medical countermeasures and personnel deployment.” A few months later,Bill Gates announced at the UN”The Decade of Vaccines “with a $10 billion donation to WHO and $4.5 million to the US State Department. The World Health Organization’s Jan 2019 announcement declaring “vaccine hesitancy” to be the greatest threat to global health was the culmination of the State Department’s bio security agenda. Within 12 months over 120 nations around the world passed laws mandating forced vaccination and launched massive censorship drives. Adam Schiff’s announcement in March was part of the State Department’s bio security putsch. Schiff made this announcement as chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee. The State Department made the donation to induce censorship of criticism of government policies.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
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People can make their own decisions about their health. If Democrat clowns want to hide underground, good. I don't want to see you anyway.
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.. The shelter-in-place order was rescinded on April 30th and business was systematically restarted over the coming weeks. Mayors had some discretion of course and some were faster than others to reopen. But in general, Georgia was done with lockdowns. Major media was apoplectic: “Georgia’s Experiment in Human Sacrifice,” screamed The Atlantic, predicting that the whole state would become a big morgue.
Seven months later, there is no disaster. In deaths per capita, Georgia is below the national average. Excess deaths actually fell in the two months following their reopening, rising again in August, and now matching average deaths from 2014-2019. The demographics of death follow what we’ve seen around the world. Three quarters of the deaths are people 65 or older. Only 3% are under 40 years of age. One third occurred in nursing homes. The average age of death is 74. Of the 7 pediatric deaths, 5 had serious comorbidities.
In other words, all quite typical of this virus. Neither the lockdown nor the opening had an impact in either direction, which offers a serious rebuke to all the states that imagined their quarantines, closings, and curfews could somehow intimidate a virus. It’s also a refutation of the media’s hysterical predictions
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