Heartless America!

C Mc

@reformed said:
@C_M_ said:

Babies don't commit sins or crimes!!! CM

What says Reformed?

Babies absolutely do commit sin. Romans 3:23

Mr. Reformed,
Do you want to rethink your response before going down this road?

1. We are born into sin.
2. Christ was not the same as all other men for two reasons. He was God and also he was not born as any other man.

This may be true on its face, but it's a double strawman from the OP and from that text (Rom. 3:23) that you say, babies "commit sins."

Do you know what the word, "commit" means? It's not the same as a "state of being" or "being born into".

May I suggest the following:
1. You review the context of this passage (Rom. 3:23).
2. Avoid infusing your political views into the biblical text.
3. Explore the meaning, nature, and practice of the word, "sin."
4. Would you consider doing this in another thread? (You have the right and the freedom to do so).

When done, so much more meaning and understanding can be had to the growth, benefit and understanding of all. CM

C Mc

-- All humans have fallen short of God’s glory (Rom 3:23).
-- The fall has it has driven a wedge between humans and their fellow human beings (Rom 3:23). not to mention it affected the relationship between humans and God.

-- Accept that you are a sinner and cannot save yourself. As sinners we are separated from God, have to expect death, and cannot bridge the chasm which exists between God and us (Rom 3:23; Isa 59:2).

@Wolfgang said:
How do you want to prove your point that babies commit sin?...

Reformed, WOULDN'T AND CAN'T! Period! No amount of religious Kabuki Dancing will produce it. CM

reformed

@C_M_ said:
-- All humans have fallen short of God’s glory (Rom 3:23).
-- The fall has it has driven a wedge between humans and their fellow human beings (Rom 3:23). not to mention it affected the relationship between humans and God.

-- Accept that you are a sinner and cannot save yourself. As sinners we are separated from God, have to expect death, and cannot bridge the chasm which exists between God and us (Rom 3:23; Isa 59:2).

@Wolfgang said:
How do you want to prove your point that babies commit sin?...

Reformed, WOULDN'T AND CAN'T! Period! No amount of religious Kabuki Dancing will produce it. CM

Of course I can.

Psalm 51:5
Psalm 58:3

C Mc

@ reformed said: Babies absolutely do commit sin. Romans 3:23
Of course, I can. Psalm 51:5; Psalm 58:3

"A text without a context is a pretext".

Reformed, what is the context of Ps 51:3? This text supposed to prove the babies "commits" sins? Please consider the information below:

The Psalmist says, “Lord, who shall abide in thy tabernacle? Who shall dwell in Your holy hill?” (Psalm 15:1). In essence, David is asking the question, “Who is going to be ultimately successful in life?” The answer is given, “He who walks uprightly, and works righteousness, and speaks the truth in his heart” (Psalm 15:2).

Whenever there is a moral failure, it starts with a distorted thought. David, in his psalm of repentance, writes, “Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to know wisdom” (Psalm 51:6).

When David committed that disastrous act with Bathsheba (2 Samuel 11:2), instead of reminding himself of what was true and right and turning away from sin, he continued to focus on the stimulating event. He became involved in emotion-based reasoning, magnification, overgeneralization, and perhaps even inflated self-esteem, believing that he, as king, was above the law. Then he acted upon those distortions. Every sin that is committed begins with a distorted thought. What distorted thoughts a baby has? CM

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@reformed said:

How do you want to prove your point that babies commit sin?...

Reformed, WOULDN'T AND CAN'T! Period! No amount of religious Kabuki Dancing will produce it. CM

Of course I can.

Psalm 51:5
Psalm 58:3

And once again, false doctrine emanates from a lack of understanding of actually rather simple figure of speech ... interpreting something literal which is not meant to be literal only leads to false doctrine.

Psalm 51:5
Behold, in iniquity I was born, and in sin my mother conceived me.

IF this were meant in a literal sense, it would not be talking about David as a baby committing sin, but rather David would be saying that his mother (!) committed sin when she conceived and later when she gave birth.

Have you never carefully read the statement? just been repeating some preacher/teacher talk you've perhaps head and believed for decades???

I suggest a more careful observation and acknowledgement of the context in order to properly recognize the figure of speech involved and thus arrive at a correct understanding of the statement made by David.

Psalm 58:3
The wicked are estranged from the womb. They go astray from the belly, speaking lies

Do you notice that this statement is NOT AT ALL about babies in general, but speaks about adult wicked people? The statement is about the wicked ... and again, obviously uses a figure of speech rather than a literal statement.

Do you know babies who immediately after birth (cp. "from the womb") are speaking lies? Do you know babies who immediately after birth actually even speak words?
I suspect, you have never even asked yourself such simple questions, because IF you had, you would have immediately recognized the error in the doctrine you are trying to promote by false using this statement of Scripture.

C Mc

@Wolfgang said:

@reformed said:

How do you want to prove your point that babies commit sin?...
Reformed, WOULDN'T AND CAN'T! Period! No amount of religious Kabuki Dancing will produce it. CM
Of course I can.
Psalm 51:5
Psalm 58:3
And once again, false doctrine emanates from a lack of understanding of actually rather simple figure of speech ... interpreting something literal which is not meant to be literal only leads to false doctrine.

Psalm 51:5
Behold, in iniquity I was born, and in sin my mother conceived me.

IF this were meant in a literal sense, it would not be talking about David as a baby committing sin, but rather David would be saying that his mother (!) committed sin when she conceived and later when she gave birth.

Have you never carefully read the statement? just been repeating some preacher/teacher talk you've perhaps head and believed for decades???

I suggest a more careful observation and acknowledgement of the context in order to properly recognize the figure of speech involved and thus arrive at a correct understanding of the statement made by David.

Psalm 58:3
The wicked are estranged from the womb. They go astray from the belly, speaking lies

Do you notice that this statement is NOT AT ALL about babies in general, but speaks about adult wicked people? The statement is about the wicked ... and again, obviously uses a figure of speech rather than a literal statement.

Do you know babies who immediately after birth (cp. "from the womb") are speaking lies? Do you know babies who immediately after birth actually even speak words?
I suspect, you have never even asked yourself such simple questions, because IF you had, you would have immediately recognized the error in the doctrine you are trying to promote by false using this statement of Scripture.

Thanks, Wolfgang,
The slightest reasoning shows error and that the texts (Ps 58:3 & Ps 51:5) were pulled from the Bible randomly without thought or context. One must rightly divide the word of truth. The premise alone ("Babies commit sins") is incorrect. Therefore, any text used would be equivalent to putting the left shoe on the right foot.

The words "commit" and "sins'' referring to babies should have awakened, my brother, to halt his headlong determination, to avoid hermeneutical collision with thought and context. After being warned to reconsider, here lies, the interpretive carnage. It needs to be acknowledged. I can't demand it, but the truth needs to be affirmed by the one who so boldly promoted error that "Babies commit sins". See my future thread on the word "sin". CM

PS. Back to Heartless America. CM

reformed

Fools

C Mc

@reformed said:
Fools

Don't be so hard on yourself. Do you know what this word means? CM

C Mc

Compassion

“Compassion is the basis of morality.” ― Arthur Schopenhauer

Witnessing the suffering of another.
Perhaps a homeless man standing,
on the street, shaking in the cold,
requesting pocket change for a warm cup of coffee.

Or a foreign traveler searching for the name of a street,
Anxiety in his eyes, Discombobulated as if lost,
In the enormous, indifferent city, crowded with strange faces.

Or a young woman weeping on a park bench,
As if she’s grieving sad news, perhaps the loss
Of a her boyfriend whose departed for someone else.

Perhaps an elderly woman holding a cane for balance,
climbing the steps, struggling to pull
her shopping buggy filled with groceries

Or the dog with sad eyes, vomited and shivering,
Lying on its side, resting, as if its caught the flu
Or something far worse.

In their suffering, you recall your own private moments of pain,
like the time you broke your leg, when you thought
you’d ski in the sunshine all day. Then you hopped around
on one leg, the other in a cast, balancing with crutches
for what seemed like an eternity.

Or the time you lost your employment
when you expected a promotion,
searched for work for a year, wallet always empty.

Or the time your girlfriend left you
for your best friend–people you trusted.
How you were devastated, felt sadness and betrayal
for several years.

These moments evoke feelings of compassion.
Your conscience whispering: “ Offer assistance
to alleviate their pain
And provide some comfort.
” So you extend a helping hand
to the person who suffers.

SOURCE:
Poem: Compassion Posted on January 26, 2015, by Dave Hood
https://writingcreativenonfiction.wordpress.com/2015/01/26/poem-compassion/

Can we show love for the children taken from their parents? Why can't Christian stand with them? CM

GaoLu

@C_M_
Other than using bold font to condemn others on a forum read by half a dozen people, what are you doing to show compassion for the people mentioned above including children ?

C Mc

..> @GaoLu said:

@C_M_
"...what are you doing to show compassion for the people mentioned above including children"?

I am very sorry you seemed to have missed the essence of the poem. It's not by me, in case you were having any reservations. I hope you would have put aside partisan politics and embraced a moment of compassion with the half-dozen participants in CD and an unknown number of readers. As for your question:
1. It is one that should be asked of your President, his daughter or the "First Lady".
2. What I am not doing is blaming innocent parents, seek asylum, in general, and babies of committing sins and crimes.
3. I am not one who has a need or a desire to publicize what I am doing or how I am supporting (directly or indirectly).

What you should be concern more about are the children who will not be returned to their parents because your government has no idea to whom they belong. This is sad! Children are NOT marbles or toy cars. What was done at the Southern Border of the US is heartbreaking and hearts will remain broken until every child is returned to their rightful parents. God is not pleased! CM

GaoLu

1. I read the poem and understood the essence.
2. I didn't think you wrote it.
3. I asked you a question which you refuse to answer (claiming modesty)
4. How cunning of you.
5. Let me give you another chance to answer the question again.
6. Other than using bold font to condemn others on a forum read by half a dozen people, what are you doing to show compassion for the people mentioned above including children?

---

“We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.”
― Plato

C Mc

Thanks for your understanding. As for other matters, I have spoken! It's not about me, it's about the children! CM

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Pray for the US Government's change of heart to put forth greater efforts to return the children. The cries, tears, and fears of the children will not be satisfied until they are returned, immediately, to the empty arms of the parents of each. This cruelty is a scourge on humanity's soul before a compassionate God. The USA has "...omitted the weightier matters...the law, judgment, MERCY, and faith" (Matthew 23:23). "Woe, unto you," America! CM

GaoLu

Clearly, It is all about you and your noisy fuss with no action. If it was about children you would actually do something besides criticize people who are doing something.

reformed

@C_M_ said:
..> @GaoLu said:

@C_M_
"...what are you doing to show compassion for the people mentioned above including children"?

I am very sorry you seemed to have missed the essence of the poem. It's not by me, in case you were having any reservations. I hope you would have put aside partisan politics and embraced a moment of compassion with the half-dozen participants in CD and an unknown number of readers. As for your question:
1. It is one that should be asked of your President, his daughter or the "First Lady".
2. What I am not doing is blaming innocent parents, seek asylum, in general, and babies of committing sins and crimes.

They aren't innocent. They are committing crimes. Stop lying to yourself. I posted the criteria for asylum. That's not what is going on at the border.

3. I am not one who has a need or a desire to publicize what I am doing or how I am supporting (directly or indirectly).

What you should be concern more about are the children who will not be returned to their parents because your government has no idea to whom they belong. This is sad! Children are NOT marbles or toy cars. What was done at the Southern Border of the US is heartbreaking and hearts will remain broken until every child is returned to their rightful parents. God is not pleased! CM

Right, people breaking the law and destroying their family because they broke the law is heartbreaking and God is not pleased that they broke the law.

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C_M, are you saying that parents and children ought to be gathered at the border, united and then escorted across the border so they can go home to where they came from?

C Mc

@Wolfgang said:
C_M, are you saying that parents and children ought to be gathered at the border, united and then escorted across the border so they can go home to where they came from?

Wolfgang,
I said, no such! "Man's inhumanity to man" needs to stop, immediately! The children need to be returned to their parents without any conditions. To do otherwise is demanding ransom as in a kidnapping. Sucking babies, toddlers and "special needs" children had no part in whatever law one wants to impose upon their parents. What's wrong with America? How could she be so heartless and uncaring? Germany would never do such a thing. She has learned from her past.

How could a Christian, of any stripe, endorse this familial mugging and emotional rape of defenseless children? This is a throwback to the dark days of humanity's past. Why not lend your voice, albeit from a distance, to speak truth to power. Don't buy America's propaganda sewage to justify heaven's condemned behavior. CM

reformed

@C_M_ said:

@Wolfgang said:
C_M, are you saying that parents and children ought to be gathered at the border, united and then escorted across the border so they can go home to where they came from?

Wolfgang,
I said, no such! "Man's inhumanity to man" needs to stop, immediately! The children need to be returned to their parents without any conditions. To do otherwise is demanding ransom as in a kidnapping. Sucking babies, toddlers and "special needs" children had no part in whatever law one wants to impose upon their parents. What's wrong with America? How could she be so heartless and uncaring? Germany would never do such a thing. She has learned from her past.

How could a Christian, of any stripe, endorse this familial mugging and emotional rape of defenseless children? This is a throwback to the dark days of humanity's past. Why not lend your voice, albeit from a distance, to speak truth to power. Don't buy America's propaganda sewage to justify heaven's condemned behavior. CM

Again, this does not fit the definition of kidnapping.

C Mc

@reformed said:
I said, no such! "Man's inhumanity to man" needs to stop, immediately! The children need to be returned to their parents without any conditions. To do otherwise is demanding ransom as in a kidnapping. Sucking babies, toddlers and "special needs" children had no part in whatever law one wants to impose upon their parents. What's wrong with America? How could she be so heartless and uncaring? Germany would never do such a thing. She has learned from her past.

How could a Christian, of any stripe, endorse this familial mugging and emotional rape of defenseless children? This is a throwback to the dark days of humanity's past. Why not lend your voice, albeit from a distance, to speak truth to power. Don't buy America's propaganda sewage to justify heaven's condemned behavior. CM

Again, this does not fit the definition of kidnapping.

Poor reading skills, sad. "...ransom as in a kidnapping". CM

PS. Kidnap -- "Take (someone) away illegally by force, typically to obtain a ransom."
Synonyms: "abduct, carry off, capture, seize, snatch, take hostage
"they attempted to kidnap the president's child".

reformed

@C_M_ said:

@reformed said:
I said, no such! "Man's inhumanity to man" needs to stop, immediately! The children need to be returned to their parents without any conditions. To do otherwise is demanding ransom as in a kidnapping. Sucking babies, toddlers and "special needs" children had no part in whatever law one wants to impose upon their parents. What's wrong with America? How could she be so heartless and uncaring? Germany would never do such a thing. She has learned from her past.

How could a Christian, of any stripe, endorse this familial mugging and emotional rape of defenseless children? This is a throwback to the dark days of humanity's past. Why not lend your voice, albeit from a distance, to speak truth to power. Don't buy America's propaganda sewage to justify heaven's condemned behavior. CM

Again, this does not fit the definition of kidnapping.

Poor reading skills, sad. "...ransom as in a kidnapping". CM

PS. Kidnap -- "Take (someone) away illegally by force, typically to obtain a ransom."
Synonyms: "abduct, carry off, capture, seize, snatch, take hostage
"they attempted to kidnap the president's child".

Not poor reading skills. You have said repeatedly this is kidnapping. And to compare it to kidnapping is dishonest. It's not kidnapping.

Newsflash, synonymns are not always equivalent. Close, but not equal. The government has not kidnapped anyone. But still defending illegal activity. Is that what floats your boat?

C Mc

@reformed said:
Newsflash, synonymns are not always equivalent. Close, but not equal. The government has not kidnapped anyone. But still defending illegal activity. Is that what floats your boat?

Mr. Reformed,
It's never "...what floats" my "boat", RETURN THE CHILDREN, NOW, is what I promote!
Please don't use the incarcerated children to gloat; "Government has not kidnapped...", you constantly try to refloat. Accusing babies of committing crimes and sins, seems to float your boat. Sad notes. CM

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@C_M_ said:

@Wolfgang said:
C_M, are you saying that parents and children ought to be gathered at the border, united and then escorted across the border so they can go home to where they came from?

Wolfgang,
I said, no such!

Then, please, what did you say? where are the parents? where are the children? why are the parents where they are and the children where they are?

"Man's inhumanity to man" needs to stop, immediately! The children need to be returned to their parents without any conditions.

So then, would you call the parents to have acted inhuman by exposing their own children to illegal / criminal activity? perhaps even having used their children as "protection shield" thinking they would be able to "overcome illegality that way"?

To do otherwise is demanding ransom as in a kidnapping. Sucking babies, toddlers and "special needs" children had no part in whatever law one wants to impose upon their parents.

Sure they had a part, and a very important part, at that .. they were/are used by their own parents as means in hope to be granted legality from the USA which -- and they are very aware of it -- they have tried to thus get illegally.

What's wrong with America?

You are asking the wrong question ... you should be asking, What's wrong with such parents, involving and using their children in illegal activities??

It is possible to Immigrate legally into the USA ... if I wanted to do so, I would need to go to the USA consulate in the country where I now live, start the proper application process, meet all the necessary requirements, and then it is up to the USA to approve my application or reject it. If approved, I pack my stuff and get on a plane and upon arrival at the USA immigration port I produce my papers and then legally immigrate.

How could she be so heartless and uncaring? Germany would never do such a thing. She has learned from her past.

No, to be blunt, Germany has not learned from her past, but the politician puppets in power have turned blind under the "guilt" or other political pressure to the point of being willing to wreck and ruin the country and sacrifice the German population into giving up anything "German".

The "walking pant suit" in Berlin singlehandedly overturned existing German and EU law 3 years ago and her "mainstream propaganda channels" and left-green-red politics "friends" continue on to this day with mass illegal entries into the country. The result is, that by far most who have come here as supposed "refugees" turn out to not be "refugees" and thus have no legal right for asylum to stay in Germany and should be deported ... only to find out, that a whole "asylum industry" that makes a lot of money with those illegals living here, while Germany's social system (financed by German workers tax money and money paid into the insurance system) is being drained by hundreds of thousands of "illegals" from foreign countries with an entirely different culture and religion and in many cases with an unwillingness to integrate into our society and cultural situation, and "those who already live here longer" (that is Merkel's official term for what used to be called "Germans") are being exploited more and more.

How could a Christian, of any stripe, endorse this familial mugging and emotional rape of defenseless children?

You are asking the wrong question ... ask instead, "How could people knowingly involve their children in their illegal activity? for surely, these parents have known all along that at any time when discovered to be illegal they will be penalized and most likely deported.

This is a throwback to the dark days of humanity's past. Why not lend your voice, albeit from a distance, to speak truth to power.

You seem unable to hear the truth from my voice speaking from a distance ...

Don't buy America's propaganda sewage to justify heaven's condemned behavior.

Seems more like you are the one stuck in America's propaganda sewage ... albeit, that propaganda which opposes current attempts at enforcing USA laws in solving this illegality problem that has seemingly be neglected (perhaps on purpose? ) in the past?

C Mc

Pictures worth a thousand words:

Nine Guatemalan children were reunited with their parents Tuesday, months after they had been separated at the US border as part of the Trump administration’s “zero-tolerance” immigration policy.

The parents were among hundreds of migrants who had been deported without their children.

Getty Images photographer John Moore was there to capture the emotional scenes.
“I was concentrating on taking photos, in a really cramped space, so I couldn’t listen in on much of their conversations,” Moore said. “At one point I heard a father say ‘Perdoname’ (‘Forgive me’) to his son when they were reunited. He, like most parents, didn’t know they might be separated from their children after crossing the border into the US.”

The children flew to Guatemala City from New York, where some of them had been held since being separated from their parents. After being processed at the airport, they were taken to a local shelter where their parents were waiting. Moore called the reunions “bittersweet, at best.”

“There were tears of joy and relief, but also of anguish and regret,” he said.
These are the first nine children to be returned to their deported parents in Guatemala, according to the country’s social welfare ministry. In June, a federal judge ordered the US government to reunite all parents and children it had separated at the border.

Filomena, 6, plays while she waits to be reunited with her father, who had been deported after they crossed the US-Mexico border. AGE 6! America has lost its soul.

One of the boys uses his thumbprint to sign reception documents at the shelter.

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"Reunited, and it feels so good". It's unfortunate, for many children, this will never be their experience. It breaks a normal person's heart.

What crimes have these children committed? None, by any country's standards or laws.

God made "Brown and "light-skinned" people. A hard lesson for many to grasp, but it's truth, we must all embrace.

Where are the so-called Republican Christians? Can't they get through to Mr. Trump? Every child deserves their parents. CM

GaoLu

Nice that you found pictures of happy people for us to look at. But, for all your fuss and bluster, you still do nothing. I am utterly unimpressed. Now, actually do something and you will get the attention you crave.

reformed

@C_M_ said:

Pictures worth a thousand words:

Nine Guatemalan children were reunited with their parents Tuesday, months after they had been separated at the US border as part of the Trump administration’s “zero-tolerance” immigration policy.

The parents were among hundreds of migrants who had been deported without their children.

Getty Images photographer John Moore was there to capture the emotional scenes.
“I was concentrating on taking photos, in a really cramped space, so I couldn’t listen in on much of their conversations,” Moore said. “At one point I heard a father say ‘Perdoname’ (‘Forgive me’) to his son when they were reunited. He, like most parents, didn’t know they might be separated from their children after crossing the border into the US.”

The children flew to Guatemala City from New York, where some of them had been held since being separated from their parents. After being processed at the airport, they were taken to a local shelter where their parents were waiting. Moore called the reunions “bittersweet, at best.”

“There were tears of joy and relief, but also of anguish and regret,” he said.
These are the first nine children to be returned to their deported parents in Guatemala, according to the country’s social welfare ministry. In June, a federal judge ordered the US government to reunite all parents and children it had separated at the border.

Filomena, 6, plays while she waits to be reunited with her father, who had been deported after they crossed the US-Mexico border. AGE 6! America has lost its soul.

One of the boys uses his thumbprint to sign reception documents at the shelter.

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"Reunited, and it feels so good". It's unfortunate, for many children, this will never be their experience. It breaks a normal person's heart.

What crimes have these children committed? None, by any country's standards or laws.

God made "Brown and "light-skinned" people. A hard lesson for many to grasp, but it's truth, we must all embrace.

Where are the so-called Republican Christians? Can't they get through to Mr. Trump? Every child deserves their parents. CM

They didn't know there would be consequences for breaking the law? That's the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

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@C_M_ said:
Getty Images photographer John Moore was there to capture the emotional scenes.
“I was concentrating on taking photos, in a really cramped space, so I couldn’t listen in on much of their conversations,” Moore said. “At one point I heard a father say ‘Perdoname’ (‘Forgive me’) to his son when they were reunited. He, like most parents, didn’t know they might be separated from their children after crossing the border into the US.”

Yeah, sure .... "he ... didn't know they might be separated from their children after crossing the border". Ok ... but that is irrelevant. I would think he knew very well that he was trying to enter the USA illegally without proper visa and that such crime will have some consequences.

This admission by the parent shows clearly that he was using the child as a "free passage" across the border, as he thought that a child in his company would surely get him into the USA .... false assumption, false hopes, and willful inclusion of his child in his illegal attempt to "beat the system".

Now, I do wonder why the USA immigration authorities did not immediately escort the united family back across the border, but rather only deported the parent? Would have been a lot less trouble and a lot less cost to deport the family in one go ... or is there a law which caused the temporary separation?

I know a few people (not refugees by any means, but well to do folks) who years ago extra flew to the USA with the wife being great with child ... the sole purpose being to have the child born on USA soil and thus automatically having USA citizenship ... which was to serve as the big stepping stone a few years later when the little US citizen girl was used as major reason for her parents to receive permanent residency and eventually citizenship in the USA ... they sort of did it the legal way, albeit using a bit of expensive trickery as well

GaoLu

Exactly. Like the guy here illegally with his wife. She was great with child, planning a caesarian (explain how that could happen). Liberal media points out that she gets tearful when her husband, apparently running from homicide charges in his own country, is captured by police at a gas station as they drive (illegally) to the hospital to get illegally acquired tax-paid healthcare. The poor dear crook of a mom has to drive herself to the hospital to get her Caesarian delivery paid for by American taxpayers. The kid gets to keep its American citizenship--just like the previous 4 babies who are all citizens the same illegal way, All paid for by working Americans.

Disgusting. I am not feeling any pity for such behavior. Worst is the people who defend it and thus enable it. Puke.

C Mc

@reformed said:

@C_M_ said: > God made "Brown and "light-skinned" people. A hard lesson for many to grasp, but it's truth, we must all embrace.

Where are the so-called Republican Christians? Can't they get through to Mr. Trump? Every child deserves their parents. CM

They didn't know there would be consequences for breaking the law? That's the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

Given your mindset, I am not surprised.

Reformed,
Do you still think it smart to say, babies and toddlers, commit crimes and sins? CM

C Mc

@GaoLu said:
Nice that you found pictures of happy people for us to look at. But, for all your fuss and bluster, you still do nothing. I am utterly unimpressed. Now, actually do something and you will get the attention you crave.

Sorry, wrong person, wrong motives, and wrong "troll" bait. Peddle your internal needs elsewhere. I hope you get someone to listen to what a good humanitarian you are. CM

PS. Oops, I'm sorry. I will listen to you. Tell me your story in another thread. CM

reformed

@C_M_ said:

Pictures worth a thousand words:

Nine Guatemalan children were reunited with their parents Tuesday, months after they had been separated at the US border as part of the Trump administration’s “zero-tolerance” immigration policy.

The parents were among hundreds of migrants who had been deported without their children.

Getty Images photographer John Moore was there to capture the emotional scenes.
“I was concentrating on taking photos, in a really cramped space, so I couldn’t listen in on much of their conversations,” Moore said. “At one point I heard a father say ‘Perdoname’ (‘Forgive me’) to his son when they were reunited. He, like most parents, didn’t know they might be separated from their children after crossing the border into the US.”

The children flew to Guatemala City from New York, where some of them had been held since being separated from their parents. After being processed at the airport, they were taken to a local shelter where their parents were waiting. Moore called the reunions “bittersweet, at best.”

“There were tears of joy and relief, but also of anguish and regret,” he said.
These are the first nine children to be returned to their deported parents in Guatemala, according to the country’s social welfare ministry. In June, a federal judge ordered the US government to reunite all parents and children it had separated at the border.

Filomena, 6, plays while she waits to be reunited with her father, who had been deported after they crossed the US-Mexico border. AGE 6! America has lost its soul.

One of the boys uses his thumbprint to sign reception documents at the shelter.

************************** **************** *************************
"Reunited, and it feels so good". It's unfortunate, for many children, this will never be their experience. It breaks a normal person's heart.

What crimes have these children committed? None, by any country's standards or laws.

God made "Brown and "light-skinned" people. A hard lesson for many to grasp, but it's truth, we must all embrace.

Where are the so-called Republican Christians? Can't they get through to Mr. Trump? Every child deserves their parents. CM

They didn't know there would be consequences for breaking the law? That's the dumbest thing I have ever heard.> @C_M_ said:

@reformed said:

@C_M_ said: > God made "Brown and "light-skinned" people. A hard lesson for many to grasp, but it's truth, we must all embrace.

Where are the so-called Republican Christians? Can't they get through to Mr. Trump? Every child deserves their parents. CM

They didn't know there would be consequences for breaking the law? That's the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

Given your mindset, I am not surprised.

Reformed,
Do you still think it smart to say, babies and toddlers, commit crimes and sins? CM

Yep. Still do. Though I'm not sure how that is relevant. You realize I have been talking about the CRIMES OF THE PARENTS. Stop with the irrelevant red herring distractions.