Heartless America!
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I said more than that -- (cage tents). CM
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@C_M_ said:
I said more than that -- (cage tents). CMNot in the post I quoted you didn't.
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Please read the whole post. Take off the blinders. I don't know if you're unable or unwilling, Mr. Reformed, to read a post with comprehension. Therefore, any comments are tainted with biases, causes one to question your credibility. You may not care, but that's your right to do so. Even if you feel I have stated a point in error, please show a reasonable, albeit, a minimal degree of scholarship. If you find this embarrassing, I apologize in advance, but my point calls for immediate attention. Thanks. CM
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@C_M_ said:
Please read the whole post. Take off the blinders. I don't know if you're unable or unwilling, Mr. Reformed, to read a post with comprehension. Therefore, any comments are tainted with biases, causes one to question your credibility. You may not care, but that's your right to do so. Even if you feel I have stated a point in error, please show a reasonable, albeit, a minimal degree of scholarship. If you find this embarrassing, I apologize in advance, but my point calls for immediate attention. Thanks. CMIt doesn't take scholarship to quote you and call you out when you say you said something in the quote that you in fact did not.
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Hateful America! This IS just mean. CM
White House Wants to Deny Green Cards to Immigrants Who Receive Public Benefits
By DANIEL POLITI-- SEPT 23, 201811:00 AM
Protesters take part in a Solidarity Rally Against Deportation at Foley Square near the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), office on March 9, 2017 in New York City.
Protesters take part in a Solidarity Rally Against Deportation at Foley Square near the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), office on March 9, 2017 in New York City.The Trump administration is continuing its effort to restrict immigration, this time by proposing a new set of rules that could deny green cards to legal immigrants who receive public benefits. The new rules could affect those who receive food assistance, housing vouchers, and Medicare subsidies, to name a few of the benefits that could be affected. The White House is justifying the move as a way to limit immigrants who would be considered to be a drain on the economy. But The timing also suggests the administration considers there could be an electoral upside to pushing a tough message on legal—as well as illegal—immigration.
The proposal, which will be open to a period of public comment before being implemented, amounts to a rewriting of a 1999 rule. Under that regulation, those receiving cash benefits have a lower chance of receiving a green card. But it didn’t take other non-cash benefits into account.The new rule would “ensure that those seeking to enter and remain in the United States either temporarily or permanently can support themselves financially and will not be reliant on public benefits,” the Department of Homeland Security said in a news release. Any changes are likely to result in court challenges.
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@C_M_ said:
Hateful America! This IS just mean. CM
White House Wants to Deny Green Cards to Immigrants Who Receive Public Benefits
By DANIEL POLITI-- SEPT 23, 201811:00 AM
Protesters take part in a Solidarity Rally Against Deportation at Foley Square near the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), office on March 9, 2017 in New York City.
Protesters take part in a Solidarity Rally Against Deportation at Foley Square near the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), office on March 9, 2017 in New York City.The Trump administration is continuing its effort to restrict immigration, this time by proposing a new set of rules that could deny green cards to legal immigrants who receive public benefits. The new rules could affect those who receive food assistance, housing vouchers, and Medicare subsidies, to name a few of the benefits that could be affected. The White House is justifying the move as a way to limit immigrants who would be considered to be a drain on the economy. But The timing also suggests the administration considers there could be an electoral upside to pushing a tough message on legal—as well as illegal—immigration.
The proposal, which will be open to a period of public comment before being implemented, amounts to a rewriting of a 1999 rule. Under that regulation, those receiving cash benefits have a lower chance of receiving a green card. But it didn’t take other non-cash benefits into account.The new rule would “ensure that those seeking to enter and remain in the United States either temporarily or permanently can support themselves financially and will not be reliant on public benefits,” the Department of Homeland Security said in a news release. Any changes are likely to result in court challenges.
This actually makes sense. Why would we issue Green Cards to people who are immediately going to feed on public assistance? That expands the debt and takes away from Americans who need these services.
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Where is common sense? If you don't help these people, there will be an increase in crime, disease, gangs, and unrest. Help them and you'll help yourself and your community. Don't be pennywise and pound foolish. CM
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@C_M_ said:
Where is common sense? If you don't help these people, there will be an increase in crime, disease, gangs, and unrest. Help them and you'll help yourself and your community. Don't be pennywise and pound foolish. CMOr send them back home.
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This response seems to be straight out of your President's playbook. Remember the children scattered around the USA.
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@C_M_ said:
This response seems to be straight out of your President's playbook. Remember the children scattered around the USA.
CMNo, it seems to be out of the LAW OF THIS COUNTRY.
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As I predicted, so it is going to happen: Interment camps for children in Texas.
A New Tent City in the Texas Desert and Other Changes Being Imposed on Migrant Children in the US
The number of detained migrant children in the United States has increased more than fivefold since last year, and their plight in this country is not getting any better.
This needs to stop. Where is the right to life people? Is this life? Is this God's will for these children? These children are treated like cattle. This is America's new shame! CM
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@C_M_ said:
As I predicted, so it is going to happen: Interment camps for children in Texas.
A New Tent City in the Texas Desert and Other Changes Being Imposed on Migrant Children in the US
The number of detained migrant children in the United States has increased more than fivefold since last year, and their plight in this country is not getting any better.
This needs to stop. Where is the right to life people? Is this life? Is this God's will for these children? These children are treated like cattle. This is America's new shame! CM
Yes, it does need to stop. People need to stop breaking the law and coming here illegally. Then all of this will end.
Treated like cattle? Let's cut the over emotional hyperbole please and stick to facts. They are NOT being treated like cattle.
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Moving children at night with no consideration with of their feeling or ability to adjust. At least a calf is with its mother. You can't fix this. America is mean. CM
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@C_M_ said:
Moving children at night with no consideration with of their feeling or ability to adjust. At least a calf is with its mother. You can't fix this. America is mean. CMNo the criminal parents who did this to their children are.
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There is little or no oversight support or speak independently for these children. What a bad situation for a little one. CM
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@C_M_ said:
There is little or no oversight support or speak independently for these children. What a bad situation for a little one. CMYep. Shame on their parents for involving them in criminal activity.
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America needs to create a path toward citizenship, over building a wall and return the children to their parents and take this shame out of her face. CM
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@C_M_ said:
America needs to create a path over building a wall and return the children to their parents and take this shame out of her face. CMReally the parents should all be charged with child abuse for forcing their kids to go through this ordeal.
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@C_M_ said:
America needs to create a path toward citizenship, over building a wall and return the children to their parents and take this shame out of her face. CMHmn ... it is already possible for people to become a US citizen; in other words, "a path toward citizenship" already exists. Unfortunately, there are quite many people who pursue illegal paths ... some involve their children in hopes of "forcing mercy"
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Given you seem to be a very concrete-literal person in your understanding, If I am to take your point, above, at face value, you're admitting that America is neglecting and or abusing some 13,000 children many, in tents, in Texas with no schooling for them. What is this, America's new slavery? America will pay for this in more ways than one. CM
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@Wolfgang said:
@C_M_ said:
America needs to create a path toward citizenship, over building a wall and return the children to their parents and take this shame out of her face. CMHmn ... it is already possible for people to become a US citizen; in other words, "a path toward citizenship" already exists. Unfortunately, there are quite many people who pursue illegal paths ... some involve their children in hopes of "forcing mercy"
So, it sounds like you are endorsing America's tactic of removing children from their parents? This is unchristian and inhumane. Germany has more heart. America has fallen from grace into the pits of hate. Please don't encourage her to go lower down the path of degradation. CM
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@C_M_ said:
@Wolfgang said:
Hmn ... it is already possible for people to become a US citizen; in other words, "a path toward citizenship" already exists. Unfortunately, there are quite many people who pursue illegal paths ... some involve their children in hopes of "forcing mercy"So, it sounds like you are endorsing America's tactic of removing children from their parents?
I am condemning the parents' illegal attempts using their children for their own illegal activities.
In cases where the children are USA citizens while the parents are not and have mistreated their children in order to illegally gain citizenship outside the legal path, one could argue that the USA official are actually providing care - as much as is currently possible - to these USA citizen minors in a situation into which they were thrown by their irresponsible parents.This is unchristian and inhumane.
The parents have behaved unchristian and inhumane ... and irresponsible to the degree that now officials may consider them unfit to responsibly care for their children.
Germany has more heart.
What you deem to be "having heart" seems rather warped and outside any legal standards.
You seemingly have not the slightest idea about Germany ... here, the "Jugendamt" (office responsible for affairs involving minors) would already have taken full custody of these children, the only way for the parents to regain custody being taking up the office in court.
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@Wolfgang said:
@C_M_ said:
@Wolfgang said:
Hmn ... it is already possible for people to become a US citizen; in other words, "a path toward citizenship" already exists. Unfortunately, there are quite many people who pursue illegal paths ... some involve their children in hopes of "forcing mercy"So, it sounds like you are endorsing America's tactic of removing children from their parents?
A child is best cared for with his/her parents. Proven research.
I am condemning the parents' illegal attempts using their children for their own illegal activities.
Many denied the opportunity to seek asylum or to see an immigration judge. You're
"condemning the parents"? Reconsider, Sir.In cases where the children are USA citizens while the parents are not and have mistreated their children in order to illegally gain citizenship outside the legal path, one could argue that the USA official are actually providing care - as much as is currently possible - to these USA citizen minors in a situation into which they were thrown by their irresponsible parents.
Children are not dogs. "It takes a village" to bring up a child properly.
This is unchristian and inhumane.
The parents have behaved unchristian and inhumane ... and irresponsible to the degree that now officials may consider them unfit to responsibly care for their children.
A mother wanting and seeking better for her children? Don't be so cold.
Germany has more heart.
What you deem to be "having heart" seems rather warped and outside any legal standards.
You seemingly have not the slightest idea about Germany ... here, the "Jugendamt" (office responsible for affairs involving minors) would already have taken full custody of these children, the only way for the parents to regain custody being taking up the office in court.
I don't profess to know "Jugendamt", but these children in America's cages and tents, in Texas, were not abandoned. What's wrong with America? CM
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@C_M_ said:
Given you seem to be a very concrete-literal person in your understanding, If I am to take your point, above, at face value, you're admitting that America is neglecting and or abusing some 13,000 children many, in tents, in Texas with no schooling for them. What is this, America's new slavery? America will pay for this in more ways than one. CM
Nope not what I said at all.
@C_M_ said:
@Wolfgang said:
@C_M_ said:
America needs to create a path toward citizenship, over building a wall and return the children to their parents and take this shame out of her face. CMHmn ... it is already possible for people to become a US citizen; in other words, "a path toward citizenship" already exists. Unfortunately, there are quite many people who pursue illegal paths ... some involve their children in hopes of "forcing mercy"
So, it sounds like you are endorsing America's tactic of removing children from their parents? This is unchristian and inhumane. Germany has more heart. America has fallen from grace into the pits of hate. Please don't encourage her to go lower down the path of degradation. CM
Germany has more heart yet is falling apart. Hmmm....
@C_M_ said:
@Wolfgang said:
@C_M_ said:
@Wolfgang said:
Hmn ... it is already possible for people to become a US citizen; in other words, "a path toward citizenship" already exists. Unfortunately, there are quite many people who pursue illegal paths ... some involve their children in hopes of "forcing mercy"So, it sounds like you are endorsing America's tactic of removing children from their parents?
A child is best cared for with his/her parents. Proven research.
Even criminal parents? Hmm..
I am condemning the parents' illegal attempts using their children for their own illegal activities.
Many denied the opportunity to seek asylum or to see an immigration judge. You're
"condemning the parents"? Reconsider, Sir.You need to lookup the laws/definitions of asylum. It doesn't apply here.
In cases where the children are USA citizens while the parents are not and have mistreated their children in order to illegally gain citizenship outside the legal path, one could argue that the USA official are actually providing care - as much as is currently possible - to these USA citizen minors in a situation into which they were thrown by their irresponsible parents.
Children are not dogs. "It takes a village" to bring up a child properly.
This is unchristian and inhumane.
The parents have behaved unchristian and inhumane ... and irresponsible to the degree that now officials may consider them unfit to responsibly care for their children.
A mother wanting and seeking better for her children? Don't be so cold.
If they were truly seeking better for the children they would not have engaged in illegal activity.
Germany has more heart.
What you deem to be "having heart" seems rather warped and outside any legal standards.
You seemingly have not the slightest idea about Germany ... here, the "Jugendamt" (office responsible for affairs involving minors) would already have taken full custody of these children, the only way for the parents to regain custody being taking up the office in court.
I don't profess to know "Jugendamt", but these children in America's cages and tents, in Texas, were not abandoned. What's wrong with America? CM
Nobody is in a cage. Stop lying.
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@reformed said:
Germany has more heart yet is falling apart. Hmmm....
How dare you speak of Germany this way! You don't know of her inner workings and soul. Besides, this was for Wolfgang to address.
If I know nothing else, Germany doesn't treat children the way America currently does. America was once the "shining light on the hill". Now, she seems to be vying for the central spot in the black pit of the abyss. CM
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@C_M_ said:
@reformed said:
Germany has more heart yet is falling apart. Hmmm....
How dare you speak of Germany this way! You don't know of her inner workings and soul. Besides, this was for Wolfgang to address.If I know nothing else, Germany doesn't treat children the way America currently does. America was once the "shining light on the hill". Now, she seems to be vying for the central spot in the black pit of the abyss. CM
HAHAHA and @Wolfgang did respond and said you have no idea what you are talking about.
@Wolfgang said:
You seemingly have not the slightest idea about Germany ... here, the "Jugendamt" (office responsible for affairs involving minors) would already have taken full custody of these children, the only way for the parents to regain custody being taking up the office in court. -
Reformed you're a "Johnny comes lately" to the conversation. CM
@C_M_ said:
Germany has more heart.What you deem to be "having heart" seems rather warped and outside any legal standards.
@Wolfgang said: You seemingly have not the slightest idea about Germany ... here, the "Jugendamt" (office responsible for affairs involving minors) would already have taken full custody of these children, the only way for the parents to regain custody being taking up the office in court.
Then, I said in response to Wolfgang:
@C_M_ said: I don't profess to know "Jugendamt", but these children in America's cages and tents, in Texas, were not abandoned. What's wrong with America? CM
So, you see, Reformed, I'm waiting for Wolfgang's response if he choose to do so.
@reformed said:
@C_M_ said:
@reformed said:
Germany has more heart yet is falling apart. Hmmm....
How dare you speak of Germany this way! You don't know of her inner workings and soul. Besides, this was for Wolfgang to address.If I know nothing else, Germany doesn't treat children the way America currently does. America was once the "shining light on the hill". Now, she seems to be vying for the central spot in the black pit of the abyss. CM
HAHAHA and @Wolfgang did respond and said you have no idea what you are talking about.
@Wolfgang said:
You seemingly have not the slightest idea about Germany ... here, the "Jugendamt" (office responsible for affairs involving minors) would already have taken full custody of these children, the only way for the parents to regain custody being taking up the office in court.This still doesn't give you any authority or knowledge to speak of Germany the way you did:
@reformed said: "Germany has more heart yet is falling apart. Hmmm....
Arrogant American. CM
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@C_M_ said:
Reformed you're a "Johnny comes lately" to the conversation. CM@C_M_ said:
Germany has more heart.What you deem to be "having heart" seems rather warped and outside any legal standards.
@Wolfgang said: You seemingly have not the slightest idea about Germany ... here, the "Jugendamt" (office responsible for affairs involving minors) would already have taken full custody of these children, the only way for the parents to regain custody being taking up the office in court.
Then, I said in response to Wolfgang:
@C_M_ said: I don't profess to know "Jugendamt", but these children in America's cages and tents, in Texas, were not abandoned. What's wrong with America? CM
So, you see, Reformed, I'm waiting for Wolfgang's response if he choose to do so.
@reformed said:
@C_M_ said:
@reformed said:
Germany has more heart yet is falling apart. Hmmm....
How dare you speak of Germany this way! You don't know of her inner workings and soul. Besides, this was for Wolfgang to address.If I know nothing else, Germany doesn't treat children the way America currently does. America was once the "shining light on the hill". Now, she seems to be vying for the central spot in the black pit of the abyss. CM
HAHAHA and @Wolfgang did respond and said you have no idea what you are talking about.
@Wolfgang said:
You seemingly have not the slightest idea about Germany ... here, the "Jugendamt" (office responsible for affairs involving minors) would already have taken full custody of these children, the only way for the parents to regain custody being taking up the office in court.This still doesn't give you any authority or knowledge to speak of Germany the way you did:
@reformed said: "Germany has more heart yet is falling apart. Hmmm....
Arrogant American. CM
I still see you have yet to recant that we are putting children in cages. We are not.
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You can’t feel much fuss from a big toot. Respect goes to the man who DOES something.
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DHS WATCHDOG:> @GaoLu said:
You can’t feel much fuss from a big toot. Respect goes to the man who DOES something.
I agree.
However, is it necessary for one to blow one's own horn or be a see-me-worker? One has one's reward. Do it unto God. Be satisfied. He knows. CM
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